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HMOOB CUP 2011

13 Comments 04 February 2011

HMOOB CUP 2011

Blong Yang, left, a local attorney, and Dao Her, an IT professional, hope to hold the first HMOOB CUP 2011 national Hmong soccer tournament this August at Concordia University. (AAP staff photo by Tom LaVenture)

By TOM LAVENTURE
AAP staff writer

ST. PAUL, Minn. (February 1, 2011) – Hmong, summer and soccer are three in the same as indicated by the number of tournaments – and a new tournament is designed to showcase the best Hmong players and get back the purity of the sport.

Blong Yang, a local attorney who helped to establish the Hmong American Bar Association, and Dao Her, an IT professional at Western Bank, have established the first Annual HMOOB CUP from August 4-7, 2011 at the Seafoam Stadium of Concordia University in St. Paul. They expect to bring teams from Minnesota, Wisconsin, California, Michigan, North Carolina, Colorado, and other states with Hmong populations.

“We want to organize a fan-friendly soccer tournament in which soccer is the main attraction,” said Yang. “We want games that are played on regulation size fields and regulation time. What we want isn’t revolutionary, yet it would be a departure from what’s out there. We want to crown the best Hmong soccer team in the country.”

As Next Level Promotions, LLC, the two said the tournament is a player’s tournament with a big purse and shouldn’t conflict with other soccer events that occur in July or on Memorial Day. The tournament aims to attract 20 teams from around the nation.

“We would like this to be the biggest Hmong tournament in the country in 15 years,” said Yang.

Recent violence at Hmong tournaments around the country has frustrated both players and fans. However, Yang said there are many other reasons for a professional soccer tournament and that the goal is not to compete with the July 4th tournament or any other and that they have planned it around those events.

“This is a different kind of tournament, and not just a side note in a festival,” he added.

For 30 years Yang said Hmong soccer has looked the same and that its time to take it to the next level. The fighting between teams has prompted at least one player to say to him that he was embarrassed and feared Hmong players would now have a reputation as “barbarians on the field.”

“As a fan I grew up watching soccer but when it goes to fighting then who wants their kids to be involved?”

If a tournament is run by the rules and they are enforced across the board then the games should not get out of hand, he added.

The festival competitions also tend to confuse the fans. There are several simultaneous games and unless a fan catches one from the start it is difficult to know who the teams are, what the score is, or track them throughout the tournament.

The Hmoob Cup would have online information including programs with complete team rosters, schedules and player photos. They would offer real time updates as the games are being played, with lists of top scorers, the best goalies and awards to the best players at the end.

“If you can’t catch a game or don’t know the teams or the score if you came in late; we want people to know what’s going on,” he added.

The festival tournaments tend to attract fans around the edges of the field and with umbrellas up its tough to watch the game except for fans right up front. Yang said the Hmoob Cup would have grand stand seating for a better view but also to make the players more comfortable playing near the sidelines. It also helps to have only one game going on at a time, he added.

“Everyone flocks to the good game in a tournament,” he said. “We want to make every game a good game.”

Seafoam Stadium is currently under an inflatable dome during the winter but it will reportedly come down during the summer and the players will have a professional field with artificial turf, a game clock and scoreboard, a public address system, and all under the sun.

“The biggest thing is walking into a stadium and not a park,” said Yang. “If that doesn’t get the blood pumping I don’t know what will.”

“Concordia has been wonderful,” said Her. “They have been done this so long, and they are great at doing it. It is easy to work with them and we hope to sign the contracts soon.”

Registration for the tournament is first-come first-served. The first five teams from Minnesota, five teams from California, and four teams from Wisconsin will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Teams from these states that register after the first spots have been filled will be put on a waiting list to ensure teams from other states may enter.

Each team would produce a $1,700 (nonrefundable) if received before February 15, 2011, or $2,000 (nonrefundable) after February 15, and before June 1, 2011. The nonrefundable terms means registered teams must show up to play if the tournament is held – but that it will be refunded if the tournament is cancelled.

“Its difficult to convince people that its real and with real prize money,” said Yang.

A separate $1,000 security deposit is fully refundable and is required to ensure fair play and sportsmanship. Teams would face disqualification and lose their deposit for cheating, such as having players not on the final roster; for a team accumulating seven red cards; for team fighting; or abuse or threats to tournament organizers or referees.

Yang said he would not like the scenario of a tournament with fewer than 20 teams but that they would go ahead with an adjusted prize amount based on the number of entries.

“We are capping it at 20 teams,” he added. “That is 10 games over an 18 hour day, and on the last day having seven to eight games in the championship bracket.”

The technical issues have been worked out and right now the two are focusing on finding sponsors, venders, and all of the things that need to be in place.

Her has been playing soccer for most of his life and said it would be difficult not to participate in the tournament but that he wouldn’t to avoid a potential conflict of interest. He said the tournament would operate under FIFA rules with modifications only to the rules on substitutions. The teams will play at least three full 90 minute games on regulation-sized fields with certified referees.

Her said there is a tendency in the festival tournaments for teams to stack on players from around the country to increase their odds of winning. A local team may not even resemble its normal roster during a high stakes tournament.

The Hmoob Cup will have a residency rule in part to level the playing field and also to know that a team from any given state will have players from that state. He said it increases the fun in knowing that bragging rights are a little more authentic this way.

“We want to create a tournament that’s played the right way, with no bad breaks that allow good teams to lose to bad ones,” he said.

They are also looking for volunteers and paid staff. For information visit www.nextlevel-promotions.com. Contact Blong Yang at blong_atty@yahoo.com or 612-203-1459. Contact Dao Her at dnhawj@gmail.com.

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  1. Fan says:

    You boys know what? Let these organizers do whatever they want. Why should your opinion matter or even mine? If you are a player and/or a fan, you have a choice to watch and/or play. Who cares if there’s a registration fee and prize involved. Like Seb-Heu said, “it’s for the love of the game.” It’s okay to include a prize(s) and with that may take a registration fee, but who cares. Either you guys/gals are hating or you’re just cheap and you have no love for the game.

    I’m glad soccer for the Hmong community is being taken to another level. This is going to be interesting, I will be there to support the event and will pay $10-$15 to get in. Go organizers and good luck teams!

  2. Confused says:

    they want to help prevent fights, then make it free entry and no money prizes, there will be no fights, no fouls and we all drink when we’re done!

  3. Confused says:

    Im confused, so, is it us who want to crown the best hmong team all around or do they? if the players, why are they paying? sounds more like, if i want to be famous imma get people to rally up money and i can throw something together! um, 2,000 bucks and if you deposits 1000 already and no one wants to play at the end, where do the money end up? its a joke, even the hmong J4, it claims to be non-profit, but how do they fund these? government? simple, the answer is business behind doors!

  4. seb- heu says:

    as a player and soccer fan , …, money don t matter , if u play it s for the love of the game after that it s only business …
    personally i prefere to have a nice and big trophy than money , it show your pride and how hard u play to get it …
    about the fees it s a bit too much !!!! …
    i got a question !! … is it any tournament for senior players it would be great and attract more people ,…, it s still some very good player out there even they re oldest …
    then are they a limit age to particip to the tournament !!!!??? like start at what age to what age …

  5. player says:

    playing for the love of the sport is good. the $$$ is there to provide an incentive on top of that. to be honest if you had a choice to win money or trophy which would you choose? most would choose $$$. that’s how it’s always been and should continue to be. as a player it seems pointless to drive a long distance, play your heart out over 2 days and get a trophy. at least that prize money covers transportation and lodging costs.

  6. Back2BackChampion says:

    This tournament is going to draw a local crowd and very few “competitive” out of state team interest. The best out of state teams will not participate. You may get teams who normally would never make it to the quarter, semis or finals of a usual tournament show up. The concensus in the Hmong soccer community is the mentioned. Sorry for your loss ahead of time. Hope you plan better on your next venture. Perhaps you did not do enough research on the athletic crowd you are marketing to. If this event does not get canceled due to low interest, I would be curious to hear how low the first place prize monetary award dropped from the publicized amount. August is just around the corner and we shall see. If I were involved in your organization, I would poll the best ranking Hmong teams to see what incentive would increase participation. This tournament isn’t cutting it. -Hmong Soccer Player

  7. Peter Yang says:

    This is a joke. Professionals should only be paid, not some amateurs who happen to win first place. Like the other comments above, it seems to boil down to money. I’m quite sure you can establish a tourney without an entry fee or prize money and still rally up several teams who desire to play. I would like to see some skill instead of little asian people kicking each other.

  8. Touya says:

    Show some sportsmanship on the field. If your sole purpose for being on the field is for the money, then find something else to play. We don’t want to see GROWN men fight for money on a virtuous day, there’s already enough of that during weddings and funerals. Show your love for the sport by putting on your best game. And besides, it wouldn’t be a tournament without a little opportunity cost. Make it worth your money just don’t ruin it for everyone else.

  9. Xyooj says:

    it’s about time someone taking the next step. please support this event.

  10. SoccerCoach says:

    I like this idea. its time to move on.

    Pro’s: time to show hmong people how to play regulated and organized soccer

    con’s: theres still money involved for below amateur level hmong soccer….cant we just get away from giving money?!?! College boyz who play 110% all day, do not get money, and they are better then hmong soccer…why should we get money?

    yes! we are not even amateur level…believe it or not…only pros should get money…there is no excuse why money should be involved.

    oh, and a few errors in the article….

  11. JOE says:

    for this to work you have to cough up 10,000 to the 1st place winner 6,000 to the 2nd place and 4,000 to the 3rd place team then i see this happening if not good luck it’ll just be another hmong tournament…. and yes do at least hire some offical REF’s…. cause at the end of the day it’ll be 8 vs. 8

  12. Lynn says:

    If people want to play with no entry fee and no monetary reward, they can go to the park. Why go through all the trouble to host something of no value at all. Even with a trophy, someone’s gotta pay for that trophy. As far as fights, they need certified referees to make fair calls. Fights break out because other teams you play against has the right to control you out in the field (not the way it should be). I’m sure people compete for the love of the sport because I don’t think anyone wants to risk getting hurt or even wasting their energy in something they don’t like.

  13. Hmong says:

    Looks like everything boils down to $$$. How about just hold a tournament without entry fee and no monetary reward except trophy? I believe most teams compete for the the money instead of love of the sport. That’s why there are too many fights at Hmong soccer tournaments.


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